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 No.277497[Last 50 Posts]

"Baron Trying To Not Be A Shitter" Edition

I was mulling over what to say here to explain myself, but I realized it all sounded like pathetic excuse-making. Suffice to say, I've been negligent, and I want to try and fix that, for both the board's sake and my own. Any of you who are still here and still want to make this board good again, I humbly request your aid in that endeavor.

On that note, the following seem to be the biggest topics to address at the moment:

Volunteers

The overall opinion seems to be that we want Volunteers, especially in the wake of recent spam problems. I think most people would agree that just handing out power to anyone who asks isn't the best idea though, so the question of how to go about selecting people comes up. What traits should we be looking for? How can we judge people on them prior to taking them on as Volunteers? The ideal would be to just observe activity for a reasonable period and then pluck good users without warning to elevate them to modhood, but that's unfeasible for a number of reasons: 1) There's not nearly enough activity here at the moment to get a good idea of people's behavior, 2) I have no way of contacting people privately without them offering contact info, and 3) There's no telling if they'd even want the job. I feel like to some extent I'm going to need to take, as the name suggests, volunteers for the Volunteer position just as a practical matter. Thoughts?

New blood

We've lost a LOT of users, I know this for a fact. There's really no avoiding that we need a fresh influx, but I've been hesitant to just bring in people at random for similar reasons to my hesitation in bringing on new staff. Asking people to slowly introduce trusted partners one at a time obviously didn't work out though, so maybe we need to be shooting wider? If so, where? I'm hesitant about F-List considering who came from there, but maybe that was just bad luck and you all have met decent folks there? What other places are there? Thoughts or ideas, please.

How to make the board appealing

Despite losing a lot of frankly amazing users, there's still clearly a population hanging around here, but that doesn't seem to translate into activity. I could literally sit here all day, clicking away fervently at the refresh button on the tabs for "Recent posts" or the Report Queue, but it wouldn't mean much if people aren't posting. RP threads, game threads, fetish discussions… what do people want to see? How do we get people excited for doing this?

If there's anything I missed or that you feel should be discussed/considered, by all means please say so.

Thank you very much.

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 No.277498

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>How to make the board appealing

I'm going to level with you. Yes, it floods the whole board. Yes, its moved into an infinitely rotating thread. Yes, it's not completely what this board is about. But, and hear me out, I think we should bring back bitching threads the way it used to be. This is an image board full of anonymous users. It's the perfect breeding ground for this type of behavior and this culture has an ass load to vent and screenshot edit meme about. (Fai, f-list simulator, BBC, meme preferences in general, Josh Motherfucking Thunderbolt, the anime picture everyone uses, etc etc it goes on) It may have been overwhelming at first, but eventually it started to evolve into "When the typefucking is just right" and other stuff such as "rating threats", "anti-bitching threads", "ideal partner", "ignore lists", and etc etc. All a sub-product of plainly bitching about things. We've been dead in the water ever since what we done to it. Our memes have died and so has the activity. It was the soul of this board, despite how mean or spiteful it was to turn the targeted hate from the majority into a joke among ourselves. That's what you get when you run an anonymous image board on the internet, and that's what people expect when they come here.

The cycling bitching thread is miles less entertaining. I go in and it seems like the most interesting stuff, which is replied the most as usual, got buried somewhere already via new posts, leaving replies to nowhere. Then people talk about stuff that's been erased so now there's these half conversations in the half-way point of the thread. I don't know what happened before and I can easily miss what happened now. Frankly, I left some time ago and peak back every once in a while to see if there's any good shit like before. I like my bitching threads like I enjoy my community news; full of drama and shit throwing that I could follow back on completely and comment on its moment.

Think for just a moment and ask yourself. If you were to go into any anonymous chan board besides this one and disallow bitching about something. How well would you think it'll be received?

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 No.277499

>>277497

>How to make the board appealing

I'll admit I'm fairly new to 8chan as a whole. Only found this place by pure chance. And the only reason I'm even still around is because I noticed Wicked's game thread. I joined it, and then I stuck around. So… RP threads and Game threads would certainly appeal to some people… at least perhaps help them stick around long enough to join in with the discussions or something. Give people something to do on the board, you know? I've only really started getting into ERP'ing again thanks to this board, and have been enjoying myself despite the lack of activity. Though my time here has been short, I do want to see this place actually buzzing with activity.

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 No.277501

I've been lurking every day for months now, occasionally posting here and there when I think my 2 cents are worth it. For the volunteers, you don't have to immediately employ 20 guys and risk having one of them fuck up. This board is slow, so all you need at first is a single one that checks in at least once a day.

I never thought bitching threads were spam. They just seemed that way because they were the most posted in threads. That's no wonder since people bring in their drama content from outside the board. Mostly.

Personally I feel like kink discussions is a promising source of activity that can translate into more activity on the board overall. If you can get people to talk about things they like, they're more likely to express that affinity in other threads as well. Threads like "I could never get into [insert kink], change my mind", or "The most specific RP ideas you could never get play for" might be able to generate discussion.

Above all, though, the board needs new people. There's a clear divide in my RP friends circle between people who are and aren't shitposters/channers. Obviously, all of the ones that do visit chans also drop by and sometimes posts here, too, but I don't really think it's a good idea to straight up advertise a chan board to RP normies. The only way I can see something like that working out is if people on their various RP sites mention the board. That used to be much more of a thing, actually - to come across someone with a /tg/ or /erp/ custom kink. I feel that not a lot of people do that anymore.

It might also help for the board to have an identity of its own, something people can identify with, even if its just on a meme level. Something like an official mascot, /erp/-tan.

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 No.277503

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>>277497

I think any influx of new users is either going to have to be f-list or the painful act of getting non-writers into the hobby from elsewhere on 8chan. It's hypothetically possible to attract people, it's pretty natural for any given lonely loser to have a base level of interest in erp, but they'll be the kind of people asking for a m-m-misstress to J-J-JOI them maybe-i-if-that's-okay-with-you in Morrigan's threads for a long, long while. F-list on the other hand has such a massive, established, "mature" community (not …responsible or reasonable, but large, established) that it'd be suicidal to pass up. It's like asking us to build our own computer from circuitry when the parts are right there to assemble. Though f-list comes with a lot of shitty figures like you-know-who and a lot of retarded drama as we've all seen, I don't think the solution to that is to drop our weapons and say we need to build a community ourselves from scratch or we die, the solution to that is to actually moderate. There isn't really another place for roleplay on the internet with nearly as many advanced users we want without a significant "cultural downside" like roleplaychat or twitter.

There is definitely a large population still orbiting around here, see: the discord, but the issue is that the population and the roleplay scene in general has changed. Even f-list suffers from having a large number of core users who basically don't even actually roleplay, ever. People are engulfed right now in their own personal dramas and insulated in their own private message RP for all their needs. I think any solution to this is going to involve something with a really, really low barrier to entry for people to dabble in anything they try without a lot of setup or investment involved - a compelling RP thread without a lot to memorize where you don't need a huge stat sheet or a time-consuming character to jump in on and play around, a game you can just hop in on without rolling a dozen dice and picking fifty feats, etc.

I've been playing around with the idea of using one-off temporary Chatzy rooms to link from here and do IM roleplay that way because you just pick a username and you're in. I feel like if it's unintimidating and easy to go from just watching to maybe saying something and getting roped in, then you've nailed the sort of natural progression we're going to need for anything to take off. Nearly everyone in the hobby has some friends to retreat to for private scenes just the way they like, and everybody became fearful of the inevitable anonymous shit-flinging that the bitching cyclical was known for - anything done publicly was absolutely ripped to shreds with no accountability. Even with it gone, people are still left with the attitude, so anything new that we do should consider making it very low-effort, very low-investment to just try out. We've all become shy between the bitching and f-list.

>>277498

At the same time, there's a point to be made here in that the driver of OC and culture on this board has been stuff like this. I don't agree we should ever have a fucking drama thread again, but I think it'd be acceptable to have an AUTISM thread because it's one of the few things the remaining community still has fun with: >blues, >purples, Hello Misses and such, with one caveat.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO MODERATE IT or it will just be the new place for the same toxic drama shitheap.

>>277501

I think you might need at least two as activity seems to be going up so they can discuss among themselves and so we don't fall prey to whatever one specific person's personal interpretation of drama is.

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 No.277506

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>>277497

Honestly, man, I don't think there's any saving for poor ol' /erp/. It's just too late, now. There's countless particular reasons for it - Fai's never-ending tirade of lunacy, the death-knell BLACKED spam, the clear focus on the shitposting thread and little else, and the rare influx of newcomers largely being JOI-bait. 8ch's scarceness never did it any good, either- especially since this website's most well-known for encouraging fuckin' mass shooters and shit. I think the most prominent reason, though, was just how absolutely, insufferably toxic this place got. All throughout the board's lifespan, there was this undercurrent of needless hostility and utterly pointless drama. The shitposting thread was guilty of it every single day: how people would make up horrible shit about other writers, how nobody seemed to be having a good time, and how folk would stage straight-up witch-hunt campaigns and tell people to kill themselves over dumbass /erp/ drama.

To an outsider, like me, that shit was fucking wack. It all seemed pointless, too; massive tirades and genuinely disgusting drama all over people that I didn't know, that I wouldn't ever know, and, if I did get to know them, I'd find that none of that idiot drama was true whatsoever. I stuck with the thread, though- but only lurked. I figure I'm something of an exception, considering– because I'm sure most everyone else that caught a glimpse of that cyclical hellhole just pushed off and left. Instead, they probably settled for /trash/'s /flg/, which is still kickin'.

Ultimately, most of the shitposters of the cyclical thread moved off to the discord, which is noticeably less obnoxious. It's because there's no anonymity, there - and that's made people much less shitty to each other just by way of having established rules and a name. /erp/'s in a state where it's just too obscure, too insane, and has too much bad blood to recover. /trash/ has /flg/, which is more popular, less hostile, and doesn't exactly have people telling others to commit suicide over typefucking drama.

It's done, B. I don't think there's any coming back. The community's fractured off, and maybe that's for the best.

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 No.277507

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This board is boring and dead. The only way to make it less boring and dead would be to get new blood, and at this point the only "real" way to do that tall task would just be getting volunteers to actually moderate this board before actively advertising elsewhere, like the owner of /eros/ was going to do. Where exactly would you shill the board? I've got no fucking idea honestly. Somehow unless you wanted to make an actual official /erp/ room on F-list or shill out actual money to the F-list moderators for banner space, you would have trouble getting any members from that place. You could post one or two links in the /trash/ thread, but honestly even if some people did come from there… I doubt it would be enough.

Maybe the anon above me is right. This place probably is just dead. People will probably continue to post on it for the next few years, maybe even longer - There are plenty of generals on 4ch which should be long dead that just keep going just because people post there out of habit. As far as ever actually becoming half-way decent or alive again goes though? I'm not seeing it.

I'll probably keep posting here and there personally, outside of that though… I've mostly entirely moved onto the discord and have no shame in admitting so. Most of the stuff that made this board decent for me to begin with - Talking about RP with fellow chan-users, sharing resources and advice, maybe even actually roleplaying with people if the stars align - have all moved over there now. Admin-chan will probably ruin everything eventually - They've already proven that they're probably somewhere on the special spectrum, considering they pushed everyone into playing pokemon and thought that discord was hacking all our IP addresses not ten minutes after the server was made.

For now though? Even though some of the more active members have left, while the vast majority that have stayed behind are mostly lurkers, that place manages to be enjoyable with some actual day to day activity even though the post-creation wave of activity has subsided, and that is good enough for me.

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 No.277508

Nobody's having "fun" so general enthusiasm is low and negativity is high.

Bitching / Autism threads were great in the beginning because nobody took them seriously, now it's a glorified chatroom with people hanging around at all hours trying to get validation and acknowledgement.

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 No.277509

>>277498

I think this anon here has it right. We need the threads to be separate to help drive more content. Eventually they'll lead to other threads that have been pretty successful in the past. As far as bringing in new blood we can really only shill/hope another autist pops up.

It seems to be kind of cyclical. Autists come and go, and there's no shortage of mentally ill people on f-list just waiting to come here and essentially drive the board with shitposting and a need to create other threads for people to enjoy, only for namefags to shit them up. Thus more threads are created.

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 No.277515

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>>277498

>It was the soul of this board

It really wasn't. I know it seems that way to a lot of the more recent users, but Bitching/Autism/Shitposting is a relatively recent phenemenon. The soul of the board was actual role-play, driven by threads like Orgy, E-E, and Fapbait, and supplemented by discussion threads.

>The cycling bitching thread is miles less entertaining. I go in and it seems like the most interesting stuff, which is replied the most as usual, got buried somewhere already via new posts, leaving replies to nowhere. Then people talk about stuff that's been erased so now there's these half conversations in the half-way point of the thread. I don't know what happened before and I can easily miss what happened now. Frankly, I left some time ago and peak back every once in a while to see if there's any good shit like before. I like my bitching threads like I enjoy my community news; full of drama and shit throwing that I could follow back on completely and comment on its moment.

The problem here is that if you're having this problem "in the moment" as it were in a 750 post thread, we're back to the situation where they're basically just constant drama spam that's overly filling the board with worthless threads pushing off actual content.

>Think for just a moment and ask yourself. If you were to go into any anonymous chan board besides this one and disallow bitching about something. How well would you think it'll be received?

This is a fair point.

>>277499

>And the only reason I'm even still around is because I noticed Wicked's game thread. I joined it, and then I stuck around

I am constantly amazed and overjoyed to know that's still going. If Wicked's reading this, as always do let me know if there's anything you need from me to support you guys.

>>277501

>For the volunteers, you don't have to immediately employ 20 guys and risk having one of them fuck up. This board is slow, so all you need at first is a single one that checks in at least once a day.

It's why we've gotten away with just me generally.

>Personally I feel like kink discussions is a promising source of activity that can translate into more activity on the board overall. If you can get people to talk about things they like, they're more likely to express that affinity in other threads as well. Threads like "I could never get into [insert kink], change my mind", or "The most specific RP ideas you could never get play for" might be able to generate discussion.

It has in the past: I know for a fact it turned one user on to tentacles when two of them did a practically spontaneous tentacle roleplay in one thread out of a discussion of it, and if memory serves a discussion thread is what led to the birth of Fapbait threads.

>Obviously, all of the ones that do visit chans also drop by and sometimes posts here, too, but I don't really think it's a good idea to straight up advertise a chan board to RP normies.

Definitely not, normalfags would be the death of us even more than now.

>The only way I can see something like that working out is if people on their various RP sites mention the board. That used to be much more of a thing, actually - to come across someone with a /tg/ or /erp/ custom kink. I feel that not a lot of people do that anymore.

So, for instance, members who are F-List users advertising the board on F-List? If any of you who do are up for it that might be worth a shot.

>It might also help for the board to have an identity of its own, something people can identify with, even if its just on a meme level. Something like an official mascot, /erp/-tan.

I do like this idea. I imagine something along the lines of PS Vita-tan, maybe with coke-bottle glasses and that general disheveled look, with different pics having whichever hot girl she's RPing? I can't draw for shit though, but hopefully someone around here can. If not, possibly asking an oekaki board?

>>277503

>There isn't really another place for roleplay on the internet with nearly as many advanced users we want without a significant "cultural downside" like roleplaychat or twitter.

While you're probably overall right in that at least some of any new userbase is going to be coming from F-List, I would definitely consider F-List to have a "significant cultural downside" due to the focus on identities and drama over actual RP.

>I think any solution to this is going to involve something with a really, really low barrier to entry for people to dabble in anything they try without a lot of setup or investment involved - a compelling RP thread without a lot to memorize where you don't need a huge stat sheet or a time-consuming character to jump in on and play around, a game you can just hop in on without rolling a dozen dice and picking fifty feats, etc.

That's basically what Orgy and Fapbait did, which is probably why they worked so well - it's very much a jump in and go deal without too much prepwork.

>I've been playing around with the idea of using one-off temporary Chatzy rooms to link from here and do IM roleplay that way because you just pick a username and you're in. I feel like if it's unintimidating and easy to go from just watching to maybe saying something and getting roped in, then you've nailed the sort of natural progression we're going to need for anything to take off.

I'm unfamiliar with Chatzy, but that sounds interesting. Anyone else have any familiarity/opinions on this?

>everybody became fearful of the inevitable anonymous shit-flinging that the bitching cyclical was known for

That's another reason the shift to an F-List focus has been so bad for the community, since you end up having an identity and thus the drama and shit flinging. When you're just Anonymous, that's not a thing really.

>At the same time, there's a point to be made here in that the driver of OC and culture on this board has been stuff like this.

Honestly, I think Ero-Empire was our biggest OC/culture driver, since Bitching et al. were more about producing OC/culture based around F-List than /erp/.

>WE NEED SOMEONE TO MODERATE IT or it will just be the new place for the same toxic drama shitheap.

This. If (and I do mean if) we bring back any of those threads, I want at least two or three Volunteers, preferably with a good time zone spread.

>>277506

>this website's most well-known for encouraging fuckin' mass shooters and shit.

What?

>All throughout the board's lifespan, there was this undercurrent of needless hostility and utterly pointless drama

There wasn't though. That's very much a product of when Bitching/Autism became so prominent due to the decline in roleplayers and the increase in F-Listers posting. You are right though that the rise of that was the real problem.

>It all seemed pointless, too; massive tirades and genuinely disgusting drama all over people that I didn't know

Pretty much this. It's all off-topic garbage, and contributes nothing to the board. It's not even venting for people here, it's venting for F-Listers.

>Ultimately, most of the shitposters of the cyclical thread moved off to the discord, which is noticeably less obnoxious. It's because there's no anonymity, there - and that's made people much less shitty to each other just by way of having established rules and a name

The thing is, said shittiness and drama occurred in the first place BECAUSE of having identities, so that's kind of a moot point. Rules are important though.

>It's done, B. I don't think there's any coming back.

I appreciate your frankness. That said, I don't consider "giving up" an option, so I'm going to keep plugging away at it.

>>277507

>This board is boring and dead. The only way to make it less boring and dead would be to get new blood, and at this point the only "real" way to do that tall task would just be getting volunteers to actually moderate this board before actively advertising elsewhere

Agreed. The first question then becomes how to get Volunteers.

>Somehow unless you wanted to make an actual official /erp/ room on F-list

I'd rather not, if possible, since I think associating identities to the board or it's users is a really bad idea and the main cause of the rise of Bitching/Autism.

>or shill out actual money to the F-list moderators for banner space

If money was something I had, I wouldn't have a work schedule that kept me away so much. Plus, do people ever actually click ad banners? Is that honestly a thing?

>>277508

>Nobody's having "fun" so general enthusiasm is low and negativity is high.

This. Like I've said before, even if I could hover over the board like a hawk 24/7, I can't make people post. We've lost the momentum we once had, and so we're fighting inertia.

>>277509

>We need the threads to be separate to help drive more content.

As in separating Shitposting back into Bitching and Autism? I feel like that's just going to revert to the spam era rather than go back to when the board was good, but again, even if that were to work, we'd need Volunteers first.

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 No.277517

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Hm… what made this board grow before F-List users came? And why did people leave in the first place?

Figure what worked and what didn't in the past to figure out how to move into the future.

So seems like bitching threads, while brought in activity also brought in a bunch of negativity. So they kept the people who liked to shitpost and bitch around, but drove away most anyone else? I wasn't around for before the cycling bitching thread was a thing.

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 No.277521

>>277517

Fun and excitement, breaking in a new board, and just lighthearted teasing everywhere.

When the bitching threads first came in, that's when people got "comfortable" about airing grievances, and some of these people took on names.

Now they weren't the most popular - hell, they nearly fell off the board a few times - but when the shitposting and bait started? Multiple threads per day, enough to push actual roleplay threads from the front page and distract from them, which frustrated just about everyone.

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 No.277522

Banning faifai was a mistake. I didn't like that schizo fuck but at least he gave this place some life. Honestly I'd rather we get a general discussion thread that can be used for whatever, bitching included, than how it currently is or how it was (Who thought shitposting thread was a good name? How do you expect quality content with a name like that?)

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 No.277523

>>277522

Fuck off.

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 No.277525

>>277522

Fuck off.

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 No.277526

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>>277517

>Hm… what made this board grow before F-List users came? And why did people leave in the first place?

No idea where most people came from, or how word spread. Personally, I wound up here from a porn dump on /v/ years ago. As for leaving, from the people I made contact with the reasons were all over the place and pretty individual - family issues, university classes, starting a new job, marriage, kids… people's lives change, and a lot of them just no longer had the time or the passion they once had. The problem I think became that the gradual loss of a good player here and there added up since we weren't bringing in fresh blood, and that killed the momentum that kept threads like Orgy and Fapbait so successful, leading to long "droughts" where you'd have a starter ignored until the original poster just wasn't around for it anymore, or people poking in just to see if anyone else was active.

>So seems like bitching threads, while brought in activity also brought in a bunch of negativity.

They brought in "activity" in that it had people posting, but it was mainly just about F-List drama things rather than being actual board activity.

>>277521

This is pretty on the money I think.

>>277522

>Banning faifai was a mistake. I didn't like that schizo fuck but at least he gave this place some life.

I'd say the opposite, that not banning him sooner was a mistake. He was never a source of life, because when the board was alive he was basically just "that guy who insists on using a name and trying to derail RP threads" that people occasionally mocked but generally ignored. It was only after the board was dying that he started gaining influence by creating his F-List clique space in the Bitching/Autism threads.

>Who thought shitposting thread was a good name? How do you expect quality content with a name like that?

It wasn't meant to be quality content - it was meant to contain the cancer of Bitching/Autism in a way that would minimalize damage to the board while still letting people have the venting space >>277498 mentioned. I called it "Shitposting" because that's all Autism and Bitching threads were essentially, at least by that point, and to hopefully make it clear that it was a venting space rather than actual content.

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 No.277530

>>277515

> I can't draw for shit though, but hopefully someone around here can. If not, possibly asking an oekaki board?

The design is obviously up to you. Cute slob certainly works. I was thinking more of shelling out some bucks to get a commission. I'd contribute a tenner or so. Maybe ask in one of the draw threads on r34, delicious or where ever.

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 No.277531

>what do people want to see?

Threads I Am Most Likely to Be Active In:

-Threads discussing specific fetishes I like (and I hide the threads I don't like)

-Threads answering peoples' questions (QTDDTOT)

-Bitching threads (mainly to give advice or laugh, occasionally to bitch myself)

-Autism threads (my absolute fave, laughing at weird profiles and weird websites)

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 No.277532

>what do people want to see?

Anything that lets me roleplay with other people that use this board, whether it be on /erp/ or on f-list.

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 No.277536

>what do people want to see?

I'd like threads to discuss specific settings like fantasy or scifi or whatever, hell I wouldn't even be opposed to kicking off some sort of Princess Callista-lite roleplay here on the board if people showed interest and the pace on posts wasn't frantically fast.

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 No.277540

>>277536

I forgot to add:

A "looking for" thread would be nice. I think a place where we could solicit specific stuff and link up with other anons would be better than just throwing character profiles into the air and hoping it sticks.

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 No.277541

>>277531

>-Autism threads (my absolute fave, laughing at weird profiles and weird websites)

The problem here, along with many other issues the board faces, is that eventually you keep running into the same autism. There's only so many times you can look at the same screenshots posted in every thread before shit gets boring.

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 No.277546

>>277541

I disagree. There's always something new to find and see, some new bizarre thing to laugh at. And even when you do end up seeing something multiple times, it stays entertaining to me. Plus you never know which new people might be there who have never seen some common things before.

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 No.277548

>>277546

>And even when you do end up seeing something multiple times, it stays entertaining to me

Well sure, you're still here. There are countless people who have given up because they grew bored of the cyclic nature.

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 No.277550

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This may be a stupid question, but what is there to lose? I understand the caution when it comes to advertising on F-List, especially with the drama and namefags it brought over, but at this point, we're sitting in ruins and the worst that could've happened seems like it already did. Between the boogeyman and BLACKED spam derailing almost every thread and the majority of people we had coming and leaving, I feel as if getting a little experimental couldn't do much worse to the board than what's already been done. If it brings in a second coming of shitposters, we know how to deal with it and know they'll eventually tire themselves out and leave.

I don't want to see the board driven into the ground, of course. I just feel like there's a lot more room for growth and less for fucking it up to the point of no return. It wouldn't hurt to try!

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 No.277551

>>277550

I agree, and honestly I think a flood of newcomers is essential as the board's current culture and mood are pretty negative. New people also allows for new hookups. IMO the question isn't if, but when and how we should bring in the newbies.

When meaning how much preparation is needed. We need some extra hands to clear spam, but also the userbase needs to get something attractive going. Open some theme threads, try to get some actual roleplay going.

Even if you have to force yourself a little at first, you might end up getting into it after you're started.

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 No.277553

You could try to pull newbies off /fur/, since roleplay is a traditional furry activity.

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 No.277557

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>>277550

I think I might agree as well. At this rate the board will be completely dead. And looking over the thread so far it seems the number one priority to taking off again is to get some new blood coming in, even from F-List. Just simply not enough active people arriving compared to the amount leaving.

So… the order priority that seems to be done now is:

1) Bring in new active users

2) Make sure there is enough Vols for the boards population of active users to maintain a healthy environment. (As long a Baron stays active, just him seems to suffice for now… but we'll need more eventually IF we can draw in new blood.)

3) Stuff to do on the board to keep people active (Games, RP, discussions, advice, finding partners to RP with privately, and rant threads (bitching, autism, cringe, whatever the hell you want to call it).

So… Back on how and where to bring in new people… I'm not sure what else to add other than what's been said already. F-List is the obvious one. Maybe 4chan somewhere? I haven't checked that site in years so dunno about that nowadays. How about other boards? Tabletop RPG players from /tg/ perhaps? That's just RP'ing but with dice and rules. Hell, we got one running on this board now that's been around for years.

In any case, an influx of new people means likely the board won't be the same as it was before now. So for some it will seem shittier, and for others it will feel better. So don't go thinking it'll be like the good ol' days. Because it probably won't… if the board even survives.

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 No.277563

>>277515

>I don't know what to do

also

>I know what isn't right for this place

Pick one. You clearly don't have a grip on what you want to do with the place. There was a time when it was flourishing and you're not going to get it back no matter how you try. There are simply better platforms for ERP.

The closest you got to returning to your peak, you shut down.

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 No.277567

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>>277530

>The design is obviously up to you

Traditionally board-tans have been born out of genuine passion and a bit of spontaneity in my experience, so I wouldn't want to dominate a process I wouldn't be able to contribute to meaningfully.

>I was thinking more of shelling out some bucks to get a commission.

Commission is where you hire an artist to draw something, right? At the risk of sounding horribly irresponsible, I'd have no way of facilitating or contributing to such an effort.

>>277536

Pace being fast shouldn't be a problem right now. I know there are threads lurking in the depths of the catalog, would it be best to start fresh ones and purge some of the old ones that haven't seen use in years?

>>277550

That does seem to be the point we're at. I think the main question now is how to build a Volunteer base in preparation.

>>277551

Very much this. Specifically, I think getting ERP going on the board itself is going to be key, so getting life in to stuff like Wicked's game and Morrigan's thread are going to be crucial. Reviving Orgy sounds like a good idea.

>>277557

Any particular reason you're seeing it in that order? I would think the reverse order would be the more logical approach.

>>277563

>You clearly don't have a grip on what you want to do with the place.

I want it to be a flourishing place for both actual ERP on the board as well as discussion threads relevant to such. What I don't have a grip on is exactly how to do that.

>There are simply better platforms for ERP.

Like? Everything else seems far too focused on identities and drama centered around them.

>The closest you got to returning to your peak, you shut down.

While obviously not making my presence known has been shown to be a mistake, I'm not sure how saying "Yep I'm still here" would've helped matters to be honest. I can, have been, and will continue to play whack-a-mole with the ban evader and any other spam as necessary, but simple attention whoring on my part isn't going to magically make activity happen, is it?

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 No.277568

>>277567

>Any particular reason you're seeing it in that order? I would think the reverse order would be the more logical approach.

Mostly I imagine having more new people on it's own will bring activity and create stuff to do. That is if they are active. So my order would be about focusing on bringing people, having enough Vols to keep up with the people coming in, and then maintaining activity.

The opposite approach is to take what we have now and convince to them be much more active. Which is fine but seems terribly hard to do… how to turn lurkers into active people?

Also one of the reasons for the board getting to this point was because active people seem to leave or lurk more than people joining or become more active. So a net loss of active people over time.

So my order is trying to make it a net positive of active people by bring in in new people. The opposite approach is make a net positive of people by making people more active.

Bring in new people seems like it would be easier to do to me (and I don't know how many lurkers there are, I'm not in Admin-chan's discord nor am I much interested. But it's been cited as proof them are lot's of people hanging but not doing much). In any case, all of them are important! No reason to not try to make threads to make people active again while trying to bring in new people. I'm just saying what I think the primary focus should be on.

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 No.277576

>>277567

>Like? Everything else seems far too focused on identities and drama centered around them.

To be fair, this is the turn the internet as a whole has been taking. Anonymity cast to the wind in order for their 15 minutes 5 seconds of fame and an eternity of shame.

Entirely shameless avenues for typefucking are very high in demand, but the imageboard format is too awkward to bring lots of people in whereas discussing it is easier.

As far as I can tell, a fraction(at least) of posters here see /erp/ as purely secondary to another medium, if not tertiary in regards to the discord.

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 No.277579

>>277568

I believe this was brought up in the last thread, though I don't remember the success of it. If we could lure out some of the lurkers to comment on why they don't post much around here, I imagine it could be useful! …Though, it may be easier said than done.

I myself choose to lurk more than post because there's just nothing that appeals to me roleplay-wise just yet. For the time being, I more or less use this board as an off-site discussion center for F-List - be it help, profile shilling, or whatever. If someone were to create a thread with the right "environment," I'd probably try it out, I just don't want to be the one to start it since I've never done that sort of thing before. I'd love to see more like the Umineko thread, where you just grab a canon and hop in.

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 No.277601

File: 57a4f250e3ad988⋯.png (197.09 KB, 430x422, 215:211, better idea.png)

>Advertise on F-List and we'll only get shitters to come over here

>Board is dead and the only thing that keeps it alive was the shitposting thread

Everyone loses in the end but with the thread there are at the very least some living souls here.

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 No.277602

>>277601

It's done. Stop trying to bring it back.

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 No.277604

>>277601

>Advertise on F-List and we'll only get shitters to come over here

If you take a look at the discord you'll realize the shitters have been here the whole time.

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 No.277605

Thread IDs might help group activity like the roleplay threads, gamefinders and logs/discussion.

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 No.277606

>>277579

Well, if you're bothering to read this you probably care on some level about either the board or what's left of it. While this meta discussion is valid, it should be second to helping boost activity. Again, even if you have to force yourself a little at first

When time allows, bump or re-create the orgy thread and try for a quickie. Maybe open a thread for trying to re-re-revive ero-empire, just in general, do something that might help spark life. Lurkers are probably just waiting for something to catch their attention, so just try to start the kind of thing you want to do on board and see if any of them bite.

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 No.277648

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>>277568

That's certainly a fair evaluation of the situation. Without something fresh, we're not going to get anywhere after all.

>>277576

>To be fair, this is the turn the internet as a whole has been taking.

Perhaps, but it's bound to swing back - an identity-centric Internet is what caused a demand for chan type message boards based around anonymity in the first place. There's definitely still a demand for it, or people wouldn't be here to begin with. If people want identity-based RP, well, that's what Skype et al. are for.

>As far as I can tell, a fraction(at least) of posters here see /erp/ as purely secondary to another medium, if not tertiary in regards to the discord.

I'm certain, especially considering the shift in board culture brought on by Fai bringing over his F-List people. That said, I have no intention of making the board into a supplement for some other site.

>>277579

>If we could lure out some of the lurkers to comment on why they don't post much around here, I imagine it could be useful! …Though, it may be easier said than done.

Definitely on all fronts there. The more we can hear from people though, the better off we'll be.

>I just don't want to be the one to start it since I've never done that sort of thing before.

It was our first time once for all of us. Obviously I can't force you to do anything, but I will say that the content here is made by the users, and you are one of them. Don't let anything stop you from making the content you want to see.

>I'd love to see more like the Umineko thread, where you just grab a canon and hop in.

As in for a specific series canon, like the Umineko thread, or just canons in general? Because the latter sounds like it's covered by Morrigan pretty well.

>>277601

Don't shit where you sleep, as they say. Take care of your home, and go do the shitposting outside on F-List or Discord.

>>277605

They haven't been necessary in the past, since users doing those games tend to just use the name field and have no reason to "lie" about who they are in those cases. That said, I'd love to hear from Wicked Nightmare if he feels differently, seeing as he's running the only surviving game at this point.

>>277606

>Well, if you're bothering to read this you probably care on some level about either the board or what's left of it.

Absolutely this. While it's slow, there's still discussion happening here, which means people still give a damn.

>While this meta discussion is valid, it should be second to helping boost activity. Again, even if you have to force yourself a little at first

I can't stress this enough. Absolutely this.

>When time allows, bump or re-create the orgy thread and try for a quickie. Maybe open a thread for trying to re-re-revive ero-empire, just in general, do something that might help spark life.

This actually makes me wonder, do people feel hesitant to post new threads about topics that have been done before but are just buried in the depths of the catalog? Should I prune out older threads that haven't seen use in a couple years so that people feel "OK" to start fresh threads?

At any rate, it seems like the consensus is to go hunting for new blood. With that in mind, how would you all propose such be done? It seems like F-List is the biggest pool, so if we are going to appeal to users there, how do we find the ones who would benefit from an anonymous, public alternative to what seems to be a very enclosed and identity-focused environment? Advertising on other boards here or on other chans, at least, would have the shared cultural aspect of anonymity, though I don't know how likely finding recruits interested in our board topic would be.

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 No.277649

How do thread IDs work? Are we looking at possibly doing away with he name field or something?

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 No.277651

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>>277649

>Are we looking at possibly doing away with he name field or something?

Not at all. One person suggested the idea that thread IDs might help group threads, and while I don't see how, I wanted to hear other viewpoints on it, especially yours and your players'.

>How do thread IDs work?

Basically, when you post in a thread, you get assigned an "ID" for that thread and that thread only. It doesn't carry over outside of said thread.

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 No.277652

>>277651

So what exactly would they be used for? I'm not sure I grasp the purpose, if there is one.

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 No.277653

>>277652

>I'm not sure I grasp the purpose, if there is one.

Honestly? You and me both. As far as I've seen, Ero-Empire never needed 'em, nor Orgy and Fapbait, and you guys certainly seem to do fine with just the name field.

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 No.277661

>>277651

I'm not a frequent user, admittedly, but I still want to chime in. Thread IDs undermine the anonymous nature of imageboards like this, and for a board like this there really isn't a need for them.

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 No.277662

>>277661

>Thread IDs undermine the anonymous nature of imageboards like this, and for a board like this there really isn't a need for them.

Exactly how I feel.

>I'm not a frequent user, admittedly, but I still want to chime in.

That doesn't make your opinions any less valid, and I'm grateful to hear them. If you don't mind saying more, is there any particular reason you're not too frequent a user, and/or anything that would make the board more appealing for you?

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 No.277665

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>277662

I'm going to say something that'll probably be unpopular, but I personally think chans are for transient people. You come and you go. When you try to take an anonymous board but let people namefag and not be drifters, bad things start to happen. Which, ultimately, killed /erp/. When you take something where everyone is meant to be faceless and start tying identity and name to people, things go south.

It's a shame /erp/ died and every last vestige of it is a horse that just refuses to die.

The shitposting threads were legitimately awful and they didn't need to exist. When that thread existed, everyone just went there, and it was nothing but everyone pretending to be retarded.

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 No.277667

>>277665

A huge side-effect was how many people were on /erp/ that weren't channers. And how many offshoot communities were flooded by people who were either indifferent or hostile to Chan culture, while also using an imageboard.

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 No.277668

I agree thread IDs aren't needed. Tripcodes can be used per thread if genuinely necessary.

>>277667

>channers

>Chan culture

So close yet so far. How come you use those words, when you know the word imageboard exists?

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 No.277694

Going to just go ahead and ask outright if you'd make me a mod. I'm here pretty often, and my ulterior motives are pretty transparent but limited to wanting to be able to edit my own posts when the OP of my game threads become outdated or when I make mistakes like misspelling or forgetting the subject field. (I just made the theme thread and then realized I forgot the subject and also thought up some missing details that really should be up above the setting description.)

Cleaning out obvious spam is straightforward enough, but for stuff beyond that I'm hesitant to take action unless i have guidelines to go by.

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 No.277701

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>>277694

Emailed you about it

On which note, we should make said guidelines. Spam and ban evasion is obvious, but I've had a few reports in the past that are dubious at best.

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 No.277707

>>277665

Honestly, this. Although I'm sure it's the last thing Baron or anyone who really wants this to work wants to hear right now, /erp/ is dead.

I am no longer in the discord, but it seemed like mostly F-List users when I was in there, and to top it off, some of the shitposting thread's namefags didn't even want the majority of the userlist to be there. It was stated several times that the discord was made to keep track of namefags. This tells me that the vicious echochamber that was the shitposting thread was and would otherwise continue to be the board's main appeal. There were a few tabletop games being organized in the discord though, but I don't know how receptive the discord community would be to tabletops taking place on a public forum like /erp/.

I don't think it's worth trying to bring back, but I'll humor the thread. Maybe you should market this as a total overhaul and inevitable rebirth of /erp. Nuke every single last thread except the most essential - this one, and the most recent ones.

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 No.277794

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>>277707

We need our own site, with

a) quality control

b) segregation

c) unlimited blocking/muting

I'm always burning out because I've combed through so many profiles that just don't appeal to me in any way whatsoever.

>Hey that's a cute character! Buuut they want to be raped and mudered by dogs.

>Oh boy, another chatroom full of circlejerking shemoids/furries

>"e-excuse me sir/miss, would you fucc my sissy boypucci"

There's people out there we've got compatibility with, but that means nothing if we can't find each other in the sea of trash profiles and shitposting.

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 No.277804

>>277794

>a) quality control

And who do you imagine will be this grand arbiter of what is or isn't acceptable quality?

b) segregation

Why can't you do that, by creating a room on f-list with rules for which type of characters aren't allowed in?

c) unlimited blocking/muting

Clicking x in the upper right corner works too you know.

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 No.277807

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>>277707

>Although I'm sure it's the last thing Baron or anyone who really wants this to work wants to hear right now, /erp/ is dead.

It's not pleasant to hear, but it's the truth, and has been for quite a while now. Doesn't mean it has to stay that way.

>I am no longer in the discord, but it seemed like mostly F-List users when I was in there, and to top it off, some of the shitposting thread's namefags didn't even want the majority of the userlist to be there. It was stated several times that the discord was made to keep track of namefags. This tells me that the vicious echochamber that was the shitposting thread was and would otherwise continue to be the board's main appeal.

It would be only to that given sample though. The board thrived long before the Bitching/Autism/Shitposting fiasco, and before the Discord program even existed much less any groups claiming to be related to us popped up on it. As far as I'm concerned, the period when Shitposting and it's predecessors was dominant was part of the period where the board has been dead. If anything, we're in a better place at the moment since we can make progress towards fixing things.

>Nuke every single last thread except the most essential - this one, and the most recent ones.

I have been considering this move for a while now, if only to free up people to talk about things without feeling an obligation to look through old threads and old posts. Ideally I'd like to get things archived first, but I'm not aware of any new archiving type sites like the old one we used to have in existence.

>>277794

>We need our own site

We've got one. We're posting on it right now.

>a) quality control

That will likely be an issue eventually, but first we need to expand the userbase period.

>b) segregation

That's why we have threads

>c) unlimited blocking/muting

Click the little arrow in the upper left of a post and hit "Hide post"

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 No.277810

>>277807

>As far as I'm concerned, the period when Shitposting and it's predecessors was dominant was part of the period where the board has been dead. If anything, we're in a better place at the moment since we can make progress towards fixing things.

I hadn't thought about it this way.

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 No.277886

Would OP mod over OP thread like /qst/ and anonkun be desirable or feasible?

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 No.277895

>>277498

I can agree with this, but also we shouldn't unban Fai and BBC posting is still cancer, fuck you dumb shitters who do this ironically and unironically alike.

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 No.277896

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>>277810

It does seem like we have a not insignificant portion of the population here who weren't around for the pre-Bitching/Autism/Shitposting era, so I can understand it not clicking for some people immediately.

>>277886

I've looked over the board options and I'm not seeing anything that looks like it would enable thread OPs to have mod powers over their own threads. For the moment, I'll extend the same offer to any other potential game masters or the like that I did to Wicked, and say that any one running something who wants an edit should feel free to say so. If it IS possible to give OPs control over their own threads though, would that be something people would want?

>>277895

Rest assured, Fai is never getting unbanned.

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 No.278019

What's the new place called?

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 No.278021

>>278019

And by new place, I mean the other board for ERP discussion someone made this year. I just remember a few profiles in their thread I never got to hit up.

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 No.278038

>>278021

I think it's been decided that the new place is being abandoned/forgotten so we can keep what few people we have left in one spot.

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 No.278043

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>>278021

>>278038

I'm the BO of that board, and I'm not going to advertise it as long as Baron stays active and works on /erp/. Having two boards for the same thing only hurts both of them; besides which, I never wanted to replace /erp/, I just felt I had no other choice because of the spam and Baron's absence. I will keep the board just in case, but /erp/ has much more history and is better known, so as long as Baron is actually being a BO I'm going to try to help.

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 No.278048

>>278043

understandable. but, could you dm the board name to me?

here's a throwaway discord

venus#7080

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 No.278066

>>278048

It's in the bunker/migration thread.

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 No.278075

>>278019

>>278043

>>278066

not the BO but here's the new/bunker/spare board:

>>>/eros/

and the migration thread:

>>276676

IMO no harm in using both and just using whichever thread you like in either. Plus keeping /eros/ in bookmarks in case of future spam here in /erp/.

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 No.278184

File: 0fd71181f658a38⋯.gif (408.98 KB, 400x296, 50:37, 53065a40dd7dcfd957e6eea58f….gif)

>>278075

>migration

>>>/eros/

Later fuckbois.

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 No.278185

File: b7bb8246516e187⋯.png (58.88 KB, 973x311, 973:311, FUck.png)

>>278184

Well that didn't last long.

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 No.278252

>>278184

>Make board

>Make a cyclical cringe thread

Congratulations, you've already fucked it up.

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 No.278314

>>278252

There's barely anybody who wants to roleplay around here so what else is anyone supposed to do?

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 No.278331

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 No.278336

>>278331

I've already made 2 threads in the last week and there's still only 3-4 people even attempting to play on the board. At least 3 of those people, I might add, are the same people who have been playing in threads in the past (myself included). I'm not entirely sure there's a resource of lurkers to attract any players from. It's just the same people like it has been for literally years.

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 No.278347

>>278336

Well fairly new around here and I am in two of the active RP threads (and the RPG). So dunno about years, but just wanted to confirm at least yeah there is a few of the same people actually RP'ing here.

Which reminds me, I am in the middle of writing down some rules to RPG to try and help keep the place alive. Almost done with it but been lazy writing it.

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 No.278360

>>277606

>Lurkers are probably just waiting for something to catch their attention, so just try to start the kind of thing you want to do on board and see if any of them bite.

I'm mostly a lurker but I don't do forum RP. So ero-empire, orgy threads, etc won't get me posting more.

I'll participate in any other threads that catch my interest. Discussing or brainstorming characters/scenes, profile hookup, sharing of ERP experiences and ideas, discussing how to RP and different kinds of RP, character/scene art, discussion of specific kinks.

I love talking about fetishes, and that leads to both forum RP and individual F-List profiles getting posted.

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 No.278405

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>>277497

I think this place should become the old /tg/'s weekend smut threads.

For starters, I think you (all) should stop obsessing about drama, and getting rid of it. Drama is a natural part of a community; not only that, but drama is a pretty good tool for building a community. I've been around here for quite a while, maybe 6 years or so, and I've never seen drama that was as bad as to warrant a moderators attention. I think you (the board owner), should disconnect from the community at the personal level, because in my years here it seems to me that you're very pathological about handling things around here. As an example, the only actual drama I remember from all these years and from all these bitching threads and from all that, is when you, Baron, exposed some guy for samefagging (was it the bloatfly guy? Can't recall); other than that, many current users of this board simply have got to grow up, and understand that drama only affects those who know about it, and care.

I was a strong advocate of not banning fai, not because I like them, but because I thought it was a stupid witch hunt that would change absolutely fuck all, and lo and behold, I was right. I see literally 0 change in the board, and if I'm wrong, please do let me know, I'm sure there's some drama somewhere that was avoided due to fai being banned, therefore saving someone the hassle of blocking them, before crying themselves to sleep. If you want to keep fai banned, that's cool, but you should really consider going over these "community censorship" decisions (because that's what it is), with a little more caution, because these things may have knock down effects that you can't readily predict.

I remember the times when this board was about the RP threads. I enjoyed those threads, but I'm not delusional, and know full well that the reason those threads dropped in popularity and the bitching threads rose, is because people simply preferred one over the other, and that's fine. Truth is, people just don't seem to care about roleplaying threads as much as they used to, and I feel like you're stuck trying to bring back old times for old time's sake. Let people participate in whatever threads they want as they wish. And you might argue that allowing the other threads buries the RP ones, therefore reducing exposure to that content, but fuck it, you can't do anything about it. And if things don't match with your view for the board, either give it to someone else, or accept that not a lot of people will stay. You're trying to build a board, not a cult of personality; let it grow and evolve organically within the constraints of the board theme.

Things simply change. Today is bitching threads, but these came for a reason, and as someone else already pointed out, these threads give people ideas for other discussions that are interesting, like best experiences, what do you look for in a partner, best partners you have, anti-bitching, and so one, and one day I'm sure the bitching threads will drop in popularity in an organic way. People have a million other platforms through which to get together and RP, so it is to be expected that there are many more people interested in discussing RP around here, rather than actually RPing (which is what we see.) For me personally, even though I participated in the RP threads, that was the real strength of the board: being able to discuss it.

The best way to moderate any kind of forum, in my opinion, is to keep it as simple and bare as possible: ban spam, ban illegal material, ban threads / responses that aren't relevant to the board's theme, and that's it. Don't try to "manage drama", don't try to be a part of the community (at least when you're in the shoes of a board owner), don't try to make things better by forbidding / forcing this or that on the community, because that simply does not work.

In conclusion to this bit, I think you need to seriously rethink the way you conduct yourself around here, and the way you manage the board. You need to stop listening to people who want "this or that" banned, because that won't solve jack shit, and for each of those people you listen, you're probably alienating and disappointing 10 others (as if the board has that many people, right?)

(cont.)

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 No.278406

File: 8703a5b9e67d133⋯.jpg (165.77 KB, 1000x969, 1000:969, 68e7e79e3fbb1581b720fc6b11….jpg)

>>278405

Moving on, I think this board needs a change of image and content:

As I stated before, there are many other platforms for actually roleplaying, and I think this is the reason why RP itself around here has died. With this in mind, I think the board should be extended to include erotic writing and artwork. Make it a place where people can come to share their smutt related original content, and to discuss and critique other people's work. This would not only bring more people, but it would also potentially help out the community, because even the people who don't RP can contribute to the roleplay theme with their works, by providing references, inspiration, and so on, and could eventually even become roleplayers themselves.

I've stopped roleplaying a while back - it's tiring, it doesn't satisfy me as much as it did, it's very time consuming, and so on - but I still like to write. I think this change would bring more people like me around; people who want to share their content, and discuss it, but who aren't necessarily interested in roleplaying.

Overall, I've always enjoyed this place partly because of the way you run it, but I've been a bit disapointed as of late. I think this place needs to change to stay relevant and to get more people. If you do not want to change it, accept it'll just die, I don't think any amount of publicity will change that (as is evident, as you said). Regardless, thank you for always listening to us, at least, and I wish you luck, whatever you decide to do.

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 No.278415

>>278406

If you're going to change the board image and content then why not simply make and moderate your own board?

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 No.278435

File: 2cc6dc5251ac99a⋯.jpg (52.58 KB, 400x225, 16:9, 2012052504.jpg)

>>278336

Even if that is the case, I feel we still need to have active content ready for when new users come in.

>>278347

Welcome! Glad to have you and hope you stick around!

>>278360

That's fine, obviously no point in forcing yourself to post in things you don't have an interest at all in. Just try to contribute to what you do like when you can.

>>278405

>the old /tg/'s weekend smut threads.

You'll need to clarify what you mean here, as I've never used /tg/ at all.

>For starters, I think you (all) should stop obsessing about drama, and getting rid of it. Drama is a natural part of a community; not only that, but drama is a pretty good tool for building a community.

>As an example, the only actual drama I remember from all these years and from all these bitching threads and from all that, is when you, Baron, exposed some guy for samefagging (was it the bloatfly guy? Can't recall); other than that, many current users of this board simply have got to grow up, and understand that drama only affects those who know about it, and care.

I agree that people need to stop obsessing about drama, but I disagree that it's natural or beneficial. Drama is a thing that happens because of identities, which is why imageboards avoid drama so well compared to traditional BBS systems. As you pointed out, the drama that you saw is when identities came into play.

>it seems to me that you're very pathological about handling things around here

In what way? Genuinely curious.

>you should really consider going over these "community censorship" decisions (because that's what it is), with a little more caution, because these things may have knock down effects that you can't readily predict.

Believe me, that kind of caution and worry is why he wasn't banned much sooner.

>the reason those threads dropped in popularity and the bitching threads rose, is because people simply preferred one over the other

From what I see, it was less that "people" prefer one over the other (because if that was the case they would simply always have been popular and RP would never happen ever) and more that there was a change in the board's population. A lot of the people who did actual RP ended up drifting away, either because of how awful the Bui spam was, or the god-awful nightmare that was using 8chan at all during the Infinity Next incident, or simply just being too busy with life. On the other hand, we started getting in a flood of people who basically treated the site like an F-List peripheral, to the point now where a lot of the "current users" don't seem to even realize that board RP was ever a thing at all.

>I feel like you're stuck trying to bring back old times for old time's sake

In the sense that I'm trying to get things active again, as opposed to the pile of absolute nothing we've had for the past few years? Sure. That said, a board is the users, and as it's impossible to magic back everyone from 5 years ago to the same state of activity they were in at that time, I am under no delusion that we're ever going to "return to the Golden Age" as it were. I do think we can still make a new Golden Age though.

>You're trying to build a board, not a cult of personality; let it grow and evolve organically within the constraints of the board theme.

I feel that that's already what I'm doing though? If you're talking about removing Shitposting, that topic is already pretty well-handled by /b/ and /sp/, so I'd say that falls outside of the board theme to begin with.

>The best way to moderate any kind of forum, in my opinion, is to keep it as simple and bare as possible: ban spam, ban illegal material, ban threads / responses that aren't relevant to the board's theme, and that's it. Don't try to "manage drama", don't try to be a part of the community (at least when you're in the shoes of a board owner), don't try to make things better by forbidding / forcing this or that on the community, because that simply does not work.

You're pretty much preaching to the choir here.

>In conclusion to this bit, I think you need to seriously rethink the way you conduct yourself around here, and the way you manage the board.

I think I must be missing something here, because you seem to want me to do what I'm already doing?

>You need to stop listening to people who want "this or that" banned

What exactly are you thinking of with this? Because the only ban I've handed out besides the obvious things like spam is to Fai, and that was a very, very long time coming and certainly no spur of the moment judgment.

>>278406

>I think the board should be extended to include erotic writing and artwork.

It already includes that though. There are a couple threads of people sharing art for various reasons, people post images to go with their posts both in the RP and discussion threads, and there are quite a few threads where people discuss writing itself - hell, while it got pushed off by the Bitching spam, there was a pretty healthy thread that was basically an "erotic short story practice" thread where a poster would come up with a short erotica vignette to go with a picture posted by a previous poster, then would post an image themselves for the next poster to work off of.

>Regardless, thank you for always listening to us, at least, and I wish you luck, whatever you decide to do.

Thank YOU for your input. What keeps me going is that there are people still this passionate about the board, whether they agree or disagree with me on it.

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 No.278439

File: 8840dd9d496de8a⋯.jpg (492.66 KB, 720x963, 80:107, 7545410.jpg)

>>278415

He's literally asking for opinions, and that's my opinion. I don't know what you mean by that.

>>278435

>It already includes that though.

Exactly! I think I forgot to state that, this is what this board kind of is already, the only problem is that it's not advertised as such, if you get what I mean. From my perspective, this is a board to discuss ERP, period, and I believe many will get that same idea as well, because it really isn't stated anywhere that this is a board for general creative storytelling focused around lewds, instead of a board just for ERP.

>the old /tg/'s weekend smut threads.

That wasn't supposed to be written on the post… /wst/ (weekend smut thread), was a recurrent thread on /tg/ where people just shared original stories and artwork (of a lewd nature), around the theme of fantasy. It's pretty much what this place is, except /wst/ had a lot more people creating and discussing content (but a lot less RP). Those threads were banned a long time ago, and that was around the time when I found this place, and I stood around because it gave me sort of the same as /wst/ did: a place to discuss fetishes and share lewd content freely. The quality was actually pretty good, in my opinion, lots of good writers and artists frequented those threads, but then they got banned and everyone scuttled. I really think you could reach out to this crowd if you change the board / advertise the board in a way that explicitly states "this board is not just for ERP, but for creative writing / artwork"; maybe even something small as changing the Welcome sticky to better reflect that, for instance.

I remember I've tried to make some writing related threads before around here, and nobody really seems to care, those never got that much attention, so bringing those people in could perhaps spark creative and productive threads like those up, where RPers could get inspiration or artwork for their RPs, and everyone else could share their work and discuss it and get feedback and all that good stuff. I think a good question would be: would you for example allow a "learning how to draw" thread, or would it be outside of the board's focus?

>it seems to me that you're very pathological about handling things around here

It just seems that you're emotionally attached to a very specific vision for the board, and you're making decisions based on that attachment. I get that you have a vision for the board, but I think you need to compromise a little if you want this place to see more people. Maybe I'm wrong, and your vision is simply a board where people actually ERP, but if that's the case I don't think you're going to bring many new people in. Maybe this feeling is just a byproduct of seeing you interact with the community so much under the Baron name

>From what I see, it was less that "people" prefer one over the other (because if that was the case they would simply always have been popular and RP would never happen ever) …

I really meant that people changed their preference. Even if you are right, you just have to accept that change at some point. I think it's the community's job to make the threads that they want to see flourish, flourish, not yours. I could go write an opener on Morrigan-nee's thread right now, but I wont because I don't really enjoy it that much anymore - part of that may be because not many people are around there nowadays, but it's also because I kind of lost interest in roleplaying - but I still enjoy many of the other threads related to ERP and certain specific fetishes or themes, and I think most threads around today are good threads, even though none of them is about board RP. I feel like focusing on board RP is a losing strategy, to be completely honest.

Also, a few other suggestions:

- The "Welcome!" thread needs to be top of the page

- Unsticky the meta discussion thread. I think it's important, but I think it gives the board a bad look. Maybe even merge the meta thread with the Welcome! thread and make it cyclical or something (even though I hate cyclical threads).

- The general tips and tricks thread is a bit obsolete, IMO, and shouldn't be a sticky (less stickies = more good, as I'm sure you'd agree). People have QTTDTOT, and if they want they can make a general tips and tricks thread themselves.

- In general, the welcome should ALWAYS be at the top, followed by at maximum one other sticky if you have anything important to announce. Other that that, only Welcome, and no more stickies.

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 No.278443

>>278439

No offense anon, but there's no other way to say it. If you aren't interested in erp then what the hell are you even doing here still? You seem bent on steering the board in a direction that would suit YOU rather than anything else.

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 No.278447

>>278439

>the only problem is that it's not advertised as such

It's not advertised at all.

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 No.278483

>>277497

why the fuck's the better board shut down to keep this fuckheap on life support?

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 No.278484

what the fucks happened while ive been away? the bitching thread is empty and balls-deep into the negative zone. What fallout from what event that birthed the new board has reaved what little life there once was?

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 No.278487

>>278484

They figured the best course of action was to simply kill the board entirely.

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 No.278491

So, are people even making an attempt to advertise this place?

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 No.278509

>>278491

No, why would they? What sort of sales pitch would you even do? "It's got fewer users than most fetish forums, moves slow as shit, and best of all it's rich in *chan culture which thrives on pettiness and anger".

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 No.278536

>>278483

You call it the better board, but it had one post per day on a good day, and no ongoing rp to speak of. I think you're the only one who thinks that, else more people would have posted there.

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 No.278603

File: 1a2a44887213661⋯.mp4 (162.1 KB, 266x268, 133:134, god damg.mp4)

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 No.278605

>>278405

>>278406

Hi, I was a long time contributor to weekend smut threads. I wrote a substantial amount for them and still occasionally get emails from people about them. I occasionally communicate with other /wst/ people still, though I'm not an active social presence as I used to be. 8ch was discussed as an option by a good-size chunk of the /wst/ contributors when the thread was deleted, but it was ultimately deemed to be a non-option.

>>278439

>artwork (of a lewd nature)

it was always sfw art due to /tg/ rules, even if it was titillating

>around the theme of fantasy

and science fiction. Anything that could relate to tabletop games.

MOSTLY THOUGH

>THERE'S NO REASON TO ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE WHO DON'T WANT TO RP IN SOME FORM

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 No.278686

File: d4274d4085d9821⋯.jpg (279.44 KB, 881x1250, 881:1250, eroticart_RC_10023_(156).jpg)

>>278605

>it was always sfw art due to /tg/ rules, even if it was titillating

>sfw art can be lewd.

>and science fiction.

Science fiction is fantasy.

>>THERE'S NO REASON TO ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE WHO DON'T WANT TO RP IN SOME FORM

If that's the case then I think this place will never have that much people, period. But quoting baron:

>>I think the board should be extended to include erotic writing and artwork.

>It already includes that though.

so I disagree, and he seems to do too.

>>278443

I thought I explained this in my posts: I like the place because I get to discuss fetishes and share character concepts (and yes, I still enjoy writing characters, even though I don't play them), and stuff like that. I like the writing aspect most of all, and the freedom we have to discuss things around here. Your question is bad because regardless of the answer, if I'm still here then there's something around here I like.

>You seem bent on steering the board in a direction that would suit YOU rather than anything else.

Of course it would suit me, I'm the one giving the suggestion. It would suit the board too, and that's the main point.

I don't get why people are so assblasted about opinions which were requested. I'm not pointing a gun at anyone going "change it now!", these are just suggestions for ways to make the board more popular. Not only that, but the things I suggested ARE already part of the board, as Baron said, I just suggested highlighting them so outsiders can ACTUALLY SEE that this is not JUST a place for ERP.

Shows me for spending an hour thinking about and writing suggestions for a board I love, huh?

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 No.278695

>>278686

I strongly agree with you. Please don't be put off.

Part of erotic roleplaying, and /erp/ as a board, has always been discussing fantasies, stories and characters. Sometimes these lead to ERP and sometimes they don't (whether or not the poster wants them to).

It's also worth considering that lots of posts lead to other people finding ERP. For example, I like discussing fetishes and concepts just like you, as well as the actual roleplay. So if we talked about those things in a thread, I might go on to find roleplay involving concepts you posted. So even though you weren't seeking RP yourself, your contributions on /erp/ still lead to ERP happening.

On a practical level, /erp/ is such a ded board we can't afford to turn anyone away. Look at how since Baron killed the bitching thread, we're left with the busiest thread on the board being the Official Meta Thread. We have an opportunity to offer people a home too. The /tg/ boards on both 4chan and 8chan are overmoderated and hostile to anything sexual, so /erp/ is a natural home for threads /wst/, as well as sexual quest threads (banned on both /tg/s and already kinda represented on /erp/ by Empress Calista's Tower sort of threads).

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 No.278697

>>278695

I'd argue the QTTDTOT-thread is the busiest new, although it kinda comes off as a less-spammy bitching thread at the moment.

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 No.278709

>>278697

That's true, imo it's the one active thread that's actually ERP-related, not just meta or shitposting.

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 No.279247

File: 8db4e96501056dd⋯.jpg (113.24 KB, 1080x1350, 4:5, 1562359952462.jpg)

>1 (one) month since last post

>nothing changed

Baron, do something. At least the board was alive when the thread was there.

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 No.279274

>>278695

Just because the bitching thread was the busiest one doesn't mean it was good. The fact that so much activity was concentrated in such threads was part of why the board is so dead overall: It became more of a place to degrade and make fun of people who ERP instead of a place where it happens.

tl;dr The bitching thread and similar threads were killing ERP and any discussion thereof that wasn't derogatory.

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 No.279275

>>279274

There's a point where we have to stop blaming the bitching thread for the issues that beset the board over the years. The thread was, for all intents and purposes, fully contained in its own autism. Much like the autism over BBC or lolicon or gore/vore and all the other shit festering in the thread, it didn't spill over to places which actually held discussions or attempts at roleplay were made. What, do you want to argue that it sets an atmosphere that makes it difficult to play or talk about anything else?

Have we seen any evidence that with it gone things will get better? It's been gone for months and there hasn't been any growth. It's literally the same people who have been doing public play all along and I'd wager the same people conversing in whatever general threads happen to pop up. In a community of some 3-4 dozen people it doesn't appear that any of them have roleplayed MORE now that the bitching thread is kapoot.

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 No.279281

>>279275

And what will bringing back that thread or others like it get us aside from a token boost in board activity numbers?

Again: Just because the bitching thread was the busiest one doesn't mean it was good.

Imagine if this was an art board and most of the activity was in a thread or even multiple threads making fun of people on deviantart or something? Do you think anyone who comes by would ant to post their own art or look for artist friends here?

Writing lewd is basically a different kind of art, and I don't see how those kinds of threads could be anything but a deterrent to the already rare newcomers.

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 No.279282

>>279281

People just want it back so they can stir up f-list drama again. There's no other reason.

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 No.279283

>>279281

And now that it's gone, what the fuck has that done? Absolutely jack shit nothing. It's the same fucking people who bothered playing at the start and it'll keep being the same people.

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 No.279285

>>279283

Nobody expected removing the thread to instantly bring back the glory days, you're only holding the idea to that standard because you don't have a good argument in favor of bringing it back, never mind one that outweighs the likelihood that the abundant negativity was making the place look like a sty that no newcomers would want to participate in.

If you think it's such a great idea, why don't you claim /erp2/, /sext/ or some other alternative and see what kind of userbase you get out of people who want the bitching thread back.

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 No.279288

>>279285

Anon, half of a year is a far cry from 'instant'. Things were working better when we had the thread. There was literally more roleplay going on, and now that it's gone what little entertainment people had between the posts has up and went and so have they.

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 No.279292

>>279275

>What, do you want to argue that it sets an atmosphere that makes it difficult to play or talk about anything else?

It does, so yes.

And it does spill over.

>>279288

Activity is currently up. See the other sticky if you don't believe me.

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 No.279304

File: e74d57a41c595df⋯.jpg (51.27 KB, 540x736, 135:184, jMYyPMH.jpg)

>>279283

I'll tell you what, buddy.

Make a bitching thread on >>>/eros/ . I'm the BO there, so I promise it'll stay up, and we can all see how it does. A testing ground of sorts. Does that sound agreeable to you? I reenabled thread creation for you.

Owait, there's already an autism/cringe thread that amounts to the same thing, and the board was still dead as a doorknob long before I disabled thread creation.

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 No.279310

>>279304

You kidding me? You turn everyone away from /eros/ and shut down thread creation and expect me to bring life back to something you fucking killed? And then use that as 'evidence' that nobody wants bitching back? The funny thing is that if you look at the board the autism/cringe thread was by far, by FAR the most active one.

I don't even want it back. I'm just saying that with it gone things haven't improved. I don't know what the fuck >>279292 is talking about when they say 'activity is currently up'. If you'd like to post stats on the number of unique users on the board improving over time then I'd love to see it.

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 No.279311

>>279310

For not wanting it back you seem to really be going to the mat in favor of it.

And again: Just because the bitching thread was the busiest doesn't mean it was good.

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 No.279318

File: d9b2bfaad2075a2⋯.png (99.36 KB, 220x472, 55:118, セイバー特殊07a(遠).png)

i miss /erp/

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 No.279552

File: 5214c8f2a239077⋯.png (1.06 MB, 878x1239, 878:1239, 30a3a4509aca9216603f0bb440….png)

Well, since everyone and their mothers is shilling their boards here, I might as well do the same.

>>278415

Basically, I decided to do what this person said, and made my own board

>>>/erot/

It only has one sticky, btw, and the second reply is my philosophy for running it.

Feedback is appreciated as well.

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 No.279555

Sorry if this was already addressed, but I'm new here and started a thread. Is it acceptable/encouraged here for someone to drop in unannounced and pretend to be someone's character without any request for doing so or even informing the other person that this is a different person writing now?

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 No.279602

File: a004e5a9753e18a⋯.jpg (32 KB, 644x459, 644:459, DvPSjSnU8AAWQae.jpg)

Ostensibly it's more worthwhile to discuss how the decline in active users happened long before the cyclical bitching thread or Fai getting banned; long before that happened the bitching threads and the profile threads were the only threads that really saw any "real" attention. Arguably this was because most people came to /erp/ to shitpost because a) it's a deepweb taiwanese basketweaving forum and b) they got most of their play on f-list (only further emphasized by the activity in the profile thread, which were primarily either shitposting or 'please fuck me' ads that people shitposted around), but what would look to be an increase in activity was less that and more just quick shoot-off drama which arguably ended up becoming the thing /erp/ was associated with. Could be argued that when a community has little else to discuss it tends to veer towards drama, but that's another debate.

From speaking with friends who used to frequent /erp/, the reason they stopped was because they felt it'd gotten too volatile, too negative (and I'm using nice, kindly wording here). This is around the time where a big amount of people seemed to drop off the board's map, presumably because of a similar line of thought - and they seemed to focus their roleplaying efforts on f-list entirely.

In effect, /erp/ become more like a dumping ground for drama surrounding f-list, if only used by the people who felt the need for it (whereas the more "normal" users seemingly dropped off when it became cool to). Like a little hidey-hole where you wouldn't have to have it traced back to you that you talked shit about, I dunno, we'll say Red and be the next person in line to be shittalked about, and around when this increased there was a definite turn in focus. Used to be the bitching threads were generally about bitching related to erp, but over time the new interesting thing was simply gossiping and talking shit (not to say it wasn't there before, but that there was a lot more of it), and people ended up using /erp/ as a talking board for their woes instead of any kind of erp (because they already got theirs on f-list already, again).

Even the bitching thread had seriously started to die around when the cool kids discord became a thing. With whatever drama there was exclusive to a discord most people didn't care to join (and with most of the discord-related drama being stuck on the discord, where people started to lay their focus instead of on /erp/, well) there wasn't really any good source of drama. All the namefags had largely gone quiet (or were effectively living injokes for discord-dwellers) and the ones that still gave /erp/ attention largely stopped. Debatably, if it hadn't been taken out behind a shed and shot it'd have just died a lonely, slow death, but my point in this isn't to discuss how that affected anything - the point is that I feel like people focus too much on arguing on whether bringing it back or not will somehow help the board, when the damage was already long done and people've found their new favorite watering holes - and that's okay. It's how things happen.

I'm not saying any of this to judge people for trying to effectively squeeze water from a stone, but moreso because I'm in a rambling mood and I feel like people focus too much on pointing fingers implying this happened because Baron removed the bitching thread, and not because it was a natural decay in interest. Not to say it can't be regained, but arguing about the why is in effect nothing but vindicating yourself on who was wrong or right on how to handle the board. Blah blah blah.

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 No.279604

>>279602

>the point is that I feel like people focus too much on arguing on whether bringing it back or not will somehow help the board

I'd never argue in favor of bringing it back to 'help the board'. Helping the board should've been done 2 and a half years ago. I'm just saying taking it away now has really done dick all.

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 No.279607

Is that Discord still active?

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 No.279614

>>279607

Nah. It slowly lost people who were interesting and is pretty much dead.

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 No.279616

>>279614

Story time?

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 No.279617

>>279614

Produce the link if able, anon.

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 No.279720

>>279602

Gonna agree overall, particularly tying "the damage was already done" to "removing the bitching thread doesn't seem to have fixed it."

It's not like anyone expected people to flood back people largely moved on to greener pastures. If you want to even try to regrow the userbase, then removing the collective drama threads is an essential step. Who knows how many people peeked into the board, concluded "it's just a drama hole" and left?

Granted having double meta stickies probably doesn't help. We should anchor or close one or both. In the case of both, make a new meta thread, don't sticky it. Then we have some discussion in what should be in a new greeting thread maybe pull some of the best advice from the help or suggestions thread and add it to following posts. Anchor and sticky that, only adding to it if the BO feels it's useful enough to be officially added.

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 No.279730

>>279304

Stop coming here, you're a shitty person.

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 No.279799

File: 9ff2d7a6a65b452⋯.jpg (25.21 KB, 489x489, 1:1, 1445748786292.jpg)

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 No.279806

>>279799

Took a mere three days to prove it.

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 No.279818

>>279806

The Korra avatar really should've been a huge tipoff right off the bat.

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 No.279819

>>279806

>>279818

Take it somewhere else, please.

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 No.279820

>>279819

Where?

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 No.279821

File: e8938ad29ca5c65⋯.jpg (145.12 KB, 1000x900, 10:9, ba2928ee-19d8-45eb-9d3c-d1….jpg)

>>279820

Discord? Your dungeons and dragons group? F-list? Your therapist?

I don't really care, but I'm not here to be your punching bag. This thread is for valid concerns and criticism, not 'DELETE UR AKOUNT' screeching.

Your compliance is appreciated in advance.

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 No.279822

>>279821

I was under the impression you're a mod of /erp/ now so if you're a bit of a d-bag then that's definitely a concern for the board. At least that's what the stickied post implies.

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 No.279823

>>279822

That's nice. I''ve already asked you once to stop insulting me, so now we're going to move on to timeouts.

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 No.279824

File: e38e5f49d866309⋯.jpg (24.91 KB, 500x375, 4:3, 5.jpg)

>>279823

Valid Criticism: You actively disregard the wishes of the population of the boards you're claiming to try and save, and this post specifically is a bad thing that you shouldn't have done >>279304 because surely you knew that it would fail due to the context of that being an even deader board than this one, and the evidence provided by it wouldn't be evidence that it couldn't work here.

This shows a lack of desire to act in the interest of those who are currently here, for a projection that it'll somehow ward off new people because it was a low quality thread, which is so far totally unfounded and all evidence points to the contrary, that evidence being that The Board was far more active during the time that we actually did have the bitching thread, not just in the thread, but over the entire board in addition.

If you do not accept this as valid you might as well admit you don't have room for actual requests so long as they don't fit your desire for a bully free zone made for pretend sex on the internet.

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 No.279825

File: 2ec3aecfeb0b804⋯.jpg (247.19 KB, 789x1158, 263:386, nDR4rAD.jpg)

>>279824

You're not getting the bitching thread back. This is Baron's decision, not mine. But for the record, I'd do the exact same thing if I were BO.

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 No.279826

>>279825

>Unwilling to admit they're ever wrong

>Bans a user for calling them a "bit of a d-bag"

Now this is what I expect out of my 8ch mods.

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 No.279827

File: c2c91a93674c06d⋯.png (373.08 KB, 1280x717, 1280:717, tumblr_inline_o4ckd6S7NF1t….png)

>>279826

Good to know I'm meeting user expectations!

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 No.279828

>>279826

Actually I stand corrected. They weren't actually called a "bit of a d-bag", it was "if you're a bit of a d-bag then that's definitely a concern for the board". So it's really only an insult if they are one.

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 No.279834

Ebonbolt is a moderator now?

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 No.279842

File: 7518c0ab184f326⋯.png (442.22 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 5.png)

>>279827

Your method of coping with the public not agreeing with your position doesn't create a welcoming atmosphere for new people.

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 No.279847

>autistic sub thread deleted

You really go out of your way to take away anything interesting on this board.

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 No.279856

>>279847

Better watch out, the mod might decide to ban you for questioning them should they decide to get offended.

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 No.279861

>>279842

Why isn't Freeza anon a moderator instead?

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 No.279862

>>279861

They probably just didn't ask. Remarkably enough, few people want to volunteer for moderating positions (especially for something as private as ERP) unless they get something out of it. Sometimes that's the feeling of helping to create and maintain a community you enjoy, sometimes they like the attention that comes with it, and most often it tends to be a desire for power in some shape or form. It's generally not a good sign when mods just stop listening to the only people willing to talk with them and start banning based on personal vendettas and perceived slights rather than actual rule breaking.

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 No.279864

File: 735ff292a7ffb0e⋯.gif (392.94 KB, 500x312, 125:78, YomikoFlop.gif)

Frankly, as long as they're doing more than Baron ever did (not a high bar to pass) I'm fine with them. Either it'll improve the place and help to bring it back, or hasten its demise and people will finally have the impetus to make a new place. Judging from the sticky asking us to advertise for the place, well, still more than Baron ever did.

Speaking of stickies, remove half of them for fuck's sake. A meta thread? Sure, whatever. A help thread that's been dead for over a year? Unacceptable. Purge it. A useless welcome sticky? Update it with information or SOMETHING useful, or get rid of it. If you want to make a place better, you need to put some effort into it. If you leave trash all over the place, don't be surprised if you get a roach infestation.

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 No.279865

>>279847

Baron deleted that thread. I banned the autist and left it in sage because it was funny, but. It's not my board, and I do have to abide by Baron's guidelines.

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 No.279866

>>279864

>Speaking of stickies, remove half of them for fuck's sake

One down, considering which of the others should stay.

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 No.279867

>>279864

There have been 3 new places made so far and each one has even less activity. It may be time to analyze what exactly makes /erp/ worthwhile. Much like the groups on f-list it may very well be just another place to advertise your profiles in hopes that you can get a bite off-site. Lord knows the number of people who desire to roleplay in public are few and far between. I won't say it's because of a change in culture, though. It could be that a lot of people have simply moved on and nobody has replaced them. I've definitely tried to help. You know, spread the word and both created RP threads and done my best to participate in them, but they've all come to a close for one reason or another (I also admit one of them was my fault, though I wish it wasn't).

The few people I had peek in don't really see a point. I've gotta admit I kinda struggle to see much point too. I used to just enjoy fucking around with the community, if nothing else. The sass, the vitriol, the uncensored opinions and even some memes here and there. Sort've what I expect of a chan community. That seems to be all but gone and based on the moderation largely unwanted, so I've definitely been questioning whether I should even bother checking in anymore.

On the plus side I see the questions and cucking thread are seeing some modest activity, so that's good.

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 No.279869

>>279862

Is it a bad thing to want power from a moderator position?

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 No.279870

>>279864

>Speaking of stickies, remove half of them for fuck's sake. A meta thread? Sure, whatever. A help thread that's been dead for over a year? Unacceptable. Purge it. A useless welcome sticky? Update it with information or SOMETHING useful, or get rid of it.

Ten thousand times this. I've said this before, and I've been thinking it even longer than that. Most of these threads need to be deleted.

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 No.279871

>>279869

Hmn… I suppose it would depend on the results. If they get a thrill out of simply doing what actually needs to be done then it's largely harmless. If they start looking for excuses to flaunt their powers then that can be an issue.

>>279870

I'd approve of some thread pruning, truth be told. It may make new people give pause to start their own threads when they see so many others made and yet also hold them back from contributing when they see nobody's replied to it for years.

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 No.279872

File: a0a63f741840362⋯.gif (1007.39 KB, 500x375, 4:3, YomikoGlasses.gif)

>>279867

It's true that /erp/ seems to be very nearly an extension of F-List. Maybe that works for and against it. I couldn't be happier that the questions thread is still kicking about, though. It means there's still curious people who want to either improve or are wondering about how things work elsewhere, such as F-List. Curiosity keeps people around, because when all we have around here are old, jaded assholes, we get people that just want to bitch.

Public play is a very different animal, especially on a chan board that's been less than stellar in facilitating it. They're not really organized to be an individual or paired experience. Wicked was doing his thing pretty decently, though, I'm always impressed about that. From that, it begs the question if a /tg/-style quest thread even work on /erp/? If nothing else, it'd be another (hopefully) active thread to keep community involvement.

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 No.279874

>>279871

>It may make new people give pause to start their own threads when they see so many others made and yet also hold them back from contributing when they see nobody's replied to it for years.

Exactly.

I bet dollars to donuts if someone made a new thread for a recurring topic of interest, people will still say something like, "We have a thread for this already," when that thread has been dead as a doorknob for several months. Moreover, it just looks good to clean all that stuff up. Presents /erp/ as something 'fresh'.

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 No.279875

>>279874

Not to mention I bet some of those threads are still locked out from the ancient 404 glitch. I don’t think necroposting is inherently bad, but it feels like it’s not worth it when the veritable ravine between post dates will be glaring and it’s a gamble whether or not people will respond.

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 No.279879

>>279872

Well, that sort of thing used to have it's own dedicated board, (/storytiem/) but then they made their own website and migrated to it. It's at:

http://fiction.live

>>279874

>>279875

Yeah,It would probably be a good idea to clear out most of the old threads, though a few might be worth archiving before the're thrown out if they have decent content in them.

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 No.279884

File: 17cb5e7f79ac841⋯.gif (1.61 MB, 600x450, 4:3, YomikoWhat.gif)

>>279879

Well shit, I'd forgotten about /storytiem/ and I'd no idea they'd moved on. I guess there's no point to hosting one here, then?

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 No.279906

>>279884

Maybe make it over there and then link to it here.

I'd say make it the opening post of a "offsite content" thread so it's open to other people linking stuff, like stories on literotica and asstr, or interactive stories on chyoa.

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 No.279907

First for dead board.

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 No.279922

File: c6a6673575e8930⋯.jpg (185.14 KB, 1503x1514, 1503:1514, 14426873.jpg)

So now that the boards back, what is going to happen?

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 No.279923

>>279922

I imagine we'll have to wait and see if there's any moderation and, if need be, make a proper migration to a new board.

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 No.280351

If you are really about what this is about, you can find me.

Indy.

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